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m1.c70
You contradict yourself Peter. You have repeatedly say the market does not care about the news ie that events may appear to be cause the market to move, but the reality is the market has the info already baked in. Now you are saying that the Trump tariffs were an anomaly that caused the market to move 13% in a day and hence the cycle targets are wrong. This is a deep logical contradiction. The simplest explanation is of multiple higher targets is that they are correct unless until they are disconfirmed. Like the rabbit/duck illusion you keep seeing the duck and focus all your efforts to supporting the duck image driven by overvaluation of the market which you admitted previously is no use for timing the market. Maybe the market is still a rabbit in spite of all these other patterns you find and going higher as your cycles say pr wise.
Miturbo2982
Very impressive timing relationships. It is valuable to know where these possibilities are, even if they do not work out as planned. Thanks for this presentation.
c.toenges5349
ChatGPT said:
Fibonacci in Timing: What It Means
Some traders apply Fibonacci ratios to time rather than price — trying to predict when a significant move, reversal, or event might occur based on the timing between key past highs and lows.
For example:
• If a major swing high to swing low took 21 days, a trader might mark out Fibonacci time ratios (e.g., 23.6%, 38.2%, 61.8%, etc.) into the future from the low to look for potential turning points.
Are They Reliable?
• Much less so than price retracements.
• They don’t give clear signals — just time-based “zones” to watch.
• Rarely used by professionals alone; often just part of a broader, more complex system (e.g., Gann theory or Elliott Wave).
Why They’re Tricky:
• Markets are influenced more by price structure than time, making time-based tools harder to test and less consistent.
• No volume or confirmation — you’re waiting for something to happen just because time passed, which is risky.
Summary:
Timing-based retracements are very speculative. Some traders explore them, but there’s no strong evidence that they work consistently. They can be used as curiosity tools or secondary alerts, but should never be relied on alone.
daniel039209
Wow, lots of research and chat GPT+ seems very helpful in speed and mostly accurate readings. What is the future price and time of the DJIA when you go 13,000 days in the future? Do you really think its lower?
What is more interesting is your fascination with "calling the top". Since March 2021, late 2022, late 2023 all of last year basically bearish upon bearish forecasts.. The market DID have a drop after your Feb 2025 suggestion of "top". We broke that 377 dma you focused on as THEE major delineation level for "bull"/ "bear". But sine April 24th the SPX has gone above the 377dma and has exploded for another 10% gain. Guy on here was buying puts as you put out videos "THIS IS THE TOP" back then. WHEN, seriously, WHEN is the top call differentiated from any other time the "top is in"
has been the call? You have been in the market for decades; there is NO top as long as USA grows oh, about 2-2.3%.
bcanary964
Peter, you make a convincing case that this was a significant top. It doesn’t necessarily mean we are about to crash like in 1929, we could be entering a period of stagnation for a few years like in the 60’s. That would make sense considering the significant damage Trump’s tariffs are doing to the US economy and global trade.
jshemanski49196
TSLA update please, as it looks like we have a new confirmed upside projection.
peacock.profit_0o5379
Fascinating presentation Peter, I really enjoyed your engagement with ChatGPT, just shows how powerful AI is becoming. As a side note 05/15 will be a Gann market turn date as well. So will see whether we have another leg down.
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You contradict yourself Peter. You have repeatedly say the market does not care about the news ie that events may appear to be cause the market to move, but the reality is the market has the info already baked in. Now you are saying that the Trump tariffs were an anomaly that caused the market to move 13% in a day and hence the cycle targets are wrong. This is a deep logical contradiction. The simplest explanation is of multiple higher targets is that they are correct unless until they are disconfirmed. Like the rabbit/duck illusion you keep seeing the duck and focus all your efforts to supporting the duck image driven by overvaluation of the market which you admitted previously is no use for timing the market. Maybe the market is still a rabbit in spite of all these other patterns you find and going higher as your cycles say pr wise.
Very impressive timing relationships. It is valuable to know where these possibilities are, even if they do not work out as planned. Thanks for this presentation.
ChatGPT said: Fibonacci in Timing: What It Means
Some traders apply Fibonacci ratios to time rather than price — trying to predict when a significant move, reversal, or event might occur based on the timing between key past highs and lows.
For example: • If a major swing high to swing low took 21 days, a trader might mark out Fibonacci time ratios (e.g., 23.6%, 38.2%, 61.8%, etc.) into the future from the low to look for potential turning points.
Are They Reliable? • Much less so than price retracements. • They don’t give clear signals — just time-based “zones” to watch. • Rarely used by professionals alone; often just part of a broader, more complex system (e.g., Gann theory or Elliott Wave).
Why They’re Tricky: • Markets are influenced more by price structure than time, making time-based tools harder to test and less consistent. • No volume or confirmation — you’re waiting for something to happen just because time passed, which is risky.
Summary:
Timing-based retracements are very speculative. Some traders explore them, but there’s no strong evidence that they work consistently. They can be used as curiosity tools or secondary alerts, but should never be relied on alone.
Wow, lots of research and chat GPT+ seems very helpful in speed and mostly accurate readings. What is the future price and time of the DJIA when you go 13,000 days in the future? Do you really think its lower?
What is more interesting is your fascination with "calling the top". Since March 2021, late 2022, late 2023 all of last year basically bearish upon bearish forecasts.. The market DID have a drop after your Feb 2025 suggestion of "top". We broke that 377 dma you focused on as THEE major delineation level for "bull"/ "bear". But sine April 24th the SPX has gone above the 377dma and has exploded for another 10% gain. Guy on here was buying puts as you put out videos "THIS IS THE TOP" back then. WHEN, seriously, WHEN is the top call differentiated from any other time the "top is in" has been the call? You have been in the market for decades; there is NO top as long as USA grows oh, about 2-2.3%.
Peter, you make a convincing case that this was a significant top. It doesn’t necessarily mean we are about to crash like in 1929, we could be entering a period of stagnation for a few years like in the 60’s. That would make sense considering the significant damage Trump’s tariffs are doing to the US economy and global trade.
TSLA update please, as it looks like we have a new confirmed upside projection.
Fascinating presentation Peter, I really enjoyed your engagement with ChatGPT, just shows how powerful AI is becoming. As a side note 05/15 will be a Gann market turn date as well. So will see whether we have another leg down.
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