1. Features

  • The app uses Peter’s refinements of J.M. Hurst’s theories of projecting future prices for stock market indexes and other markets.
  • The app provides the user with default offsets that have proven invaluable for market analysis.
  • Those default offsets can be used with weekly, daily, and even intraday charts.
  • By using these default offsets, the user will see specific price predictions appear on the charts as rectangles.
  • See Peter’s chapter in New Thinking in Technical Analysis: Trading Models from the Masters – Rick Bensignor, Wiley 2000. The chapter can be downloaded here.

1.1 WebChart

The WebChart provides a clearer picture of the exact fractional offsets and comprises the continuum, which is created by encompassing the space between the two offsets.

Like on the TradeStation charts, a click on a projections border reveals the market structure points used for the projection.

It can be opened on every load (see 2. Customize Indicator) or from the right click context menu (see 1. Features – b. Right Click Context Menu).

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1.2 Right Click Context Menu

The right click context menu allows for a very quick access to frequently used settings:

  • Show WebChart
  • Toggle the user inputs Show WebChart on load and Plot Offsets.
  • Switch between the User Input Offsets and Peter Eliades' Offsets that are provided depending on the market and the chart time frame.
  • A little warning triangle next to the offsets warns that the Space to the Right setting in the window settings is too small. A window setting of 50 will allow all offset lengths to be shown. (How to access the window settings)

The context menu is accessed by right clicking on either the signal line or the offset lines.

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1.3 Eliades' Cycle Offsets

The app comes with the Eliades' cycle offsets accessible from the right click context menu. These are the time-proven cycles for stock market indices that Peter used for decades. They are derived from JM Hurst's original work on cycles.

There are different cycles for the different markets (futures, cash/etf) and timeframes.

It shows you that the offsets are almost all interrelated. So, for example, when you want to see if nominal 10 Week projections have been generated, you can analyze a 5 week offset on a weekly chart, 24.2-27.6 day (market days) offsets on a daily chart, 314.6-358.4 periods offsets on a 30 minute cash chart, 363-414 periods offsets on a 27 minute futures chart (daytime prices only—not including Globex), 145.2-165.6 periods offsets on a 65 minute cash chart, and 386-441.198 periods offsets on a 45 minute Globex chart (including all 24 hours of trading).

Notice the column headed Calendar Days. Those offsets were originally used in Hurst’s seminal work on cycle projections. Charts were constructed with spaces for Saturdays, Sundays, and holidays. Now you can see that a nominal 10 day projection is generated by its half-span offset, namely 5 calendar days, and you can see the reason why some nominal cycles don’t seem to use half-spans to generate projections. What we had to do long ago was translate periods in calendar day charts to equivalent periods on market day charts. That is why a nominal 10 day projection is actually generated by 3.5-4.0 period offsets.

You can start with our sample workspace explained and available to download in chapter 5.2 Sample Workspaces.

Eliades' Cycle Offsets Presets
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1.4 Nicks

“Nicks” describe short-term crossings of the signal line with the continuum.

As a way of handling projections affected by noise, we introduced the Nick Filter Period.

This allows the user to filter out nicks (noise) from the projection algorithm.

2. Customize Indicator

Click the respective button below to learn how to access the indicator customization in TradeStation 9.5 and 10.

TS 9.5 how to find indicator inputs
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TS 10 how to find indicator inputs
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Following is a list of all the inputs, their meaning and available values.

Signal Price
Price used for the projection calculations.
Close for closing price projections. MedianPrice for High/Low projections.
Short Offset
Length of the short offset.
Decimal value.
Long Offset
Length of the long offset.
Decimal value.
Plot Offsets
Turn the plotting of the offsets on/off.
True = on
False = off
Color Bull Projection Area
Color of upside projections.
Available colors see TS Help.
Color Bear Projection Area
Color of downside projections.
Available colors see TS Help.
Color Invalidated Projection Area
Color of invalidated projections.
Available colors see TS Help.
Color Projection Area Transparency
Transparency of the projections.
Integer 0-100%
Color Font
Color of the font.
Available colors see TS Help.
Projection Margin in %
Adds the input percentage as a margin of error of the complete projected move.
Decimal value.
Nick Filter Period
Define a period in which ‘nicks’ are ignored.
Decimal value.
Show WebChart on load
WebChart is automatically shown on every load.
True = on
False = off

3. Updates

Updates are automatically pushed to your TradeStation. Once an update is available, you'll have a window popping up that notifies you of new updates. You can install the new update with a single click.

Alternatively, you can click on TradingApps > TradingApp Store Updates to check for updates manually.

4. Videos

4.1 Primer Eliades Cycle Price Projections

4.2 What Really Makes the market move Up and Down

4.3 What the Heck is a "Nick"?

5. Miscellaneous

5.1 Performance

The performance of the whole TradeStation platforms is greatly influenced by the amount of data on charts. In this context, it helps to think in number of bars on a chart. The program code for indicators is executed on every bar. Given the complexity of this program and multiplying it by vast numbers of bars can end up in slow performance. The program is generally able to work with large amounts of data and has been optimized for maximum speed and performance. However, a lot of calculations do end up requiring patience. We advise using fewer data in everyday use (in general, for most indicators). Longer backtests can either be processed in time slices, or be started before preparing a coffee :).

5.2 Sample Workspace

The following workspace[s] is provided as a suggestion for subscribers for an analysis page for using the Eliades Cycle Price Projection app. Those of you who are long-time TradeStation users probably have your own habits and ideas for setting up our indicator and are, of course, free to do so. For newcomers, we have provided five charts with the five timespans used by our app to generate price projections. Once you become accustomed to the program, you will likely set up your own workspaces.

The daily chart can be used for virtually any market, cash indexes, futures, commodities, FOREX etc. For each chart and time span, we have entered default parameters. The ones we entered are arbitrary and simply used as markers for the time span. Each chart and time span has its own individualized offsets that have been built into the program. A right-click on the offsets or the “signal line” will bring up the appropriate offsets for each time span. These are Peter Eliades’ offsets that were derived from the original Hurst cycle research. You are free to experiment with other offsets which can be changed by going to the inputs for the indicator. If you change those inputs, the offsets you enter will then show up as the Input Offsets when you right click on a chart offset. More in chapter 1.3 Eliades' Cycle Offsets

65 minute charts and 30 minute charts are meant to be used with cash index and equity markets whose daytime trading hours go from 9:30 am ET to 4:00 pm ET.
The two workspaces have their symbol linked (see the button in the chart window title bar) so whenever you change one of these, the other symbol changes, too.

27 Minute charts are meant to be used with Index Futures markets, daytime hours only, mamely 9:30 am ET to 4:15 pm ET.

45 Minute Charts are meant to be used for Globex analysis for entities like @ES which trade almost 24 hours/day.

On the daily chart, we have also provided two versions of the app. One of them deals with closing price projections (it uses the “Close” as the input signal), the other with intraday projections, which use the “MedianPrice” as the input signal. You can change between the “close” and the “intraday” by right-clicking on the chart background and then going to “Studies” > “Enable/Disable Studies” (TradeStation 10) or right-clicking on the chart background and then going to "Enable/Disable Analysis Techniques" (TradeStation 9.5). When using closing price projections, you should display a line chart to clarify the relationship between the projection and the price shown on the chart. MedianPrice signal lines will result in projections for extremes on a bar chart. Closing price projections will be for closes, not extremes on the bar chart. Typically, closing price projections would only be used on a daily chart.

Please download the appropriate sample workspace using the buttons below. The workspace is a .zip file and must be unzipped before it is used. You can put the file at any location on your computer. The default location is Documents\TradeStation 10.0\Workspaces (TradeStation 10) and C:\Program Files (x86)\TradeStation 9.5\MyWork (TradeStation 9.5). Double-click the .tsw file to open the workspace.